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mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign. >> i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. >>> mitt romney's billionaire base is starting to lose their cool. >> we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> e.j. deon on why billionaires who do so well under obama can't stand the president. >>> and democrats with a victory for voters in pennsylvania, but republican voter fraud is getting swept under the rug here in colorado. tonight the latest on the rnc's voter fraud scandal. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watch
mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign....
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and then, there's that other value paul ryan lied about. the thing he and other republicans love to call traditional marriage. which, of course, is not a value at all. marriage is a living arrangement. marriage is a legal agreement. marriage can be a religion-based definition of a relationship. please note that i did not say a religion-based definition between two people. because religion has always allowed, and still allows, for marriages between one man and more than one woman at the same time. in fact, throughout most of human history, the most traditional, which is to say the most popular form of marriage has been between one man and many women at the same time. and throughout human history, the other most traditional component of marriage is that it was arranged. not by the two people who marry, but by the parents of the two people who marry. this thing that mitt romney and paul ryan call traditional marriage, the marriage that is a union between only one man and only one woman and not arranged by their parents, is a tradition that is
and then, there's that other value paul ryan lied about. the thing he and other republicans love to call traditional marriage. which, of course, is not a value at all. marriage is a living arrangement. marriage is a legal agreement. marriage can be a religion-based definition of a relationship. please note that i did not say a religion-based definition between two people. because religion has always allowed, and still allows, for marriages between one man and more than one woman at the same...
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. >>> scott walker and paul ryan come out against union busting. eugene robinson and bill roden on why the nfl gets what it paid for. and on national voter registration day, ten million latino voters are in danger of being disenfranchised. we'll bring you the shocking details of a new report that could swing the election to mitt romney. being disenfranchised. we'll bring you the shocking details of a new report that could swing the election to mitt romney. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. americans are up in arms after a blown call in a football game. it's amazing what gets the country's attention. the nfl is in a labor mess because millionaires are trying to save a little money by busting the referee's union. i'll have more to say about this in a few moments. >>> but today we learned what kind of labor issue we will have on our hands if mitt romney is president. it will affect the future of education in this country. mitt romney participated in nbc's education nation summit today. the candidate had so few specifics about future pl
. >>> scott walker and paul ryan come out against union busting. eugene robinson and bill roden on why the nfl gets what it paid for. and on national voter registration day, ten million latino voters are in danger of being disenfranchised. we'll bring you the shocking details of a new report that could swing the election to mitt romney. being disenfranchised. we'll bring you the shocking details of a new report that could swing the election to mitt romney. >> good to have you...
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this is exactly what paul ryan is guilty of. paul ryan knows that hang out with mitt romney has exposed him too. now, they're not aiming this at paul ryan, because romney is the big name at the head of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely. you know that thing where a ceo appoints the young gun, he knows they're going to close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan. because at the end of the day paul ryan was supposedly this numbers guy. his numbers don't add up anyway, but he had this idea that look, i'm the guy who's going to make conservative specific policies palatable because of my style. and i'm the guy that can serve the specifics of the conservatism to the electorate. if you were to get expect, this race would be even more of a gap between romney and barack obama. >> let's take a look at this new ad that president obama released in the swing states. >> when mitt romney dismissed 47% of americans for not pulling their weight,
this is exactly what paul ryan is guilty of. paul ryan knows that hang out with mitt romney has exposed him too. now, they're not aiming this at paul ryan, because romney is the big name at the head of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely. you know that thing where a ceo appoints the young gun, he knows they're going to close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan. because at the end of the...
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let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, we're going to have to explain your plans to the american people. take all the time you want. especially here on "the ed show." you guys have been complaining about media fairness preponderance let's talk it over. today paul ryan told a radio host in milwaukee why he wouldn't give chris wallace the math. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. >> so nice of paul ryan to be concerned about chris wallace's ratings rather than presenting the e details of his plan to the voters. paul
let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a...
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paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lesson said about the morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ oh, hey alex
paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was...
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>> i sit on the budget committee with paul ryan. i've had an opportunity to debate him on many occasion. this is a case of birds of a feather. the only difference between mitt romney and paul ryan is 17% that they dismiss. >> why are they running around the country kiting us in half saying these bums. i don't want their votes? >> because they believe that half the country doesn't matter. they don't get that the percentage of americans that they are dismissing and calling victims and government dependence are our veterans or 20 million seniors who paid into medicare and social security their whole lives and now deserve to have that safety net in place for them. or college students like those that go here to the university of denver who need to make sure that they can go to college and afford it and have a student loan interest rate that's low enough for them to be able to pay back their loans. >> let's talk sheer politic, the elite ruling of the world. why, joy, does a politician trying to get 51%, as romney has been saying for month
>> i sit on the budget committee with paul ryan. i've had an opportunity to debate him on many occasion. this is a case of birds of a feather. the only difference between mitt romney and paul ryan is 17% that they dismiss. >> why are they running around the country kiting us in half saying these bums. i don't want their votes? >> because they believe that half the country doesn't matter. they don't get that the percentage of americans that they are dismissing and calling...
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and paul ryan's job is to change the subject from the 47% scandal. so why did paul ryan bring up the 47% scandal yesterday on fox news? how does your small business get people in the door? email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at constantcontact.com/try. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> of course dave doesn't hate romney. but the romney campaign is making a huge mistake with dave, who had this to say about mitch romney on friday night. >> the current president, president obama was on the show last week. the challenger, mitch romney has not been on the show. we have asked him to be on the show. we have any night, any time, short notice, whenever he wants, he
and paul ryan's job is to change the subject from the 47% scandal. so why did paul ryan bring up the 47% scandal yesterday on fox news? how does your small business get people in the door? email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at...
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and paul ryan's job is to change the subject from the 47% scandal. so why did paul ryan bring up the 47% scandal yesterday on fox news? [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these stop taking chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, tell your
and paul ryan's job is to change the subject from the 47% scandal. so why did paul ryan bring up the 47% scandal yesterday on fox news? [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or...
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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll...
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today paul ryan came face-to-face with one of those people. at a campaign event, a woman on public assistance asked ryan how he had helped people like her. >> i make $316 every two weeks. i'm wondering what you're prepared to do to end welfare as a hand up and not a hand out. i can't get off welfare with what i'm making. >> right z th. >> this is a woman in need a woman struggling. she says she can't afford to get off welfare. just listen to the end of ryan's response to her question. >> the only thing that limits you is your god given talent and your own effort. we need to have that dynamic return. you do that by drawing the economy and giving people a hand up, not a hand out. teach a man how to fish, he can feed himself for a life. don't simply just feed fish. >> don't feed fish? what does that even mean? we've heard this from herman cain. remember? if you're not rich, blame yourself. instead of offering solutions to help the poor, republicans want to gut the safety net. we have nearly two-thirds of ryan's budget cuts come from low-income pr
today paul ryan came face-to-face with one of those people. at a campaign event, a woman on public assistance asked ryan how he had helped people like her. >> i make $316 every two weeks. i'm wondering what you're prepared to do to end welfare as a hand up and not a hand out. i can't get off welfare with what i'm making. >> right z th. >> this is a woman in need a woman struggling. she says she can't afford to get off welfare. just listen to the end of ryan's response to her...
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look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they know than a republican from a party that never supported the program to begin with. >> let me go to joy on that. joy-ann, it seems to me that people who once you get into your late 60s, early 70s, into your 80s, you have one primary care, and that's what you're always talking about with your friends, how is your health? how is it going? you're social life in many ways is going to see the doctor. you have to survive, see your kids and grandkids. you don't walk away and say i'd like to cut it but i don't like his health care program. it's pretty hard to separate. >> the most remarkable t
look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they...
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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." ♪ leaving my homeland ♪ playing a lone hand â
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the tou"the huffington post" qu paul ryan as saying conservatives wanted 30%. that's going to be in the debate. running mates are causing some headaches for the presidential candidates. >>> also, have i some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and eugene robinson to fill in for obama and romney and let me ask my "hardball" questions. >>> i'm urging you to do this tonight when it comes down to thinking big. this is "hardball" live from denver, the first presidential debate. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty
the tou"the huffington post" qu paul ryan as saying conservatives wanted 30%. that's going to be in the debate. running mates are causing some headaches for the presidential candidates. >>> also, have i some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and eugene robinson to fill in for obama and romney and let me ask my "hardball" questions. >>> i'm urging you to do this tonight when it comes down to thinking big. this is...
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paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by his wife indicated a genuine anxiety she has for his mental well-being? >> well perhaps, an unspoken one. i don't think that obviously when she said mental well-being, i think she's talking about the emotional. the toughness it takes to stand in office. i'm not suggesting he somehow has borderline personality. i'm suggesting that the border states however are coming into view here and that the swing states certainly are up for grabs because mitt romney has squandered a serious purchase on his right wing constituency, gotten through paul rya
paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by...
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paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to pass new laws in maine, iowa and new hampshire. >>> k the white house glowed a lovely color of pink last night. it's estimated more than 200,000 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the u.s. just this year. >>> let's talk about another color, gray. presidents go into office full of vitality and a few years later they often look more than a few years older and grayer. it's not just president obama. research shows that stress does not affect when or how fast your hair turns gray. what does? it's my must-read and up on our facebook page at facebook.com/jansingco. ll come . delicious and whole
paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to...
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congressman paul ryan as his running mate. which the campaign came under criticism, they begged him to unleash the young conservative star, ryan. today comes news of romney/ryan infusion. the two will be spending more time together on the trail in the coming weeks. will this double act, duo, energize the campaign? michael sheerer writes for "time" magazine. michael, you first. i was impressed when he picked a guy that showed guts, picked a conservative with a real agenda, a real word on the budget, tricky stuff like medicare changes and then he had his good speech. they both had good speeches together. and then he seemed to have a one-might stand with the guy and split. now he's back saying we're dating again, we're going to show up together. what's that about? >> remember that week when they first came together, the word from the campaign, the press was bold. >> it was bold. >> it was a bold pick. the idea was, you bring ryan in and he -- you make mitt romney, who's never been conservative, golden boy into a movement leader,
congressman paul ryan as his running mate. which the campaign came under criticism, they begged him to unleash the young conservative star, ryan. today comes news of romney/ryan infusion. the two will be spending more time together on the trail in the coming weeks. will this double act, duo, energize the campaign? michael sheerer writes for "time" magazine. michael, you first. i was impressed when he picked a guy that showed guts, picked a conservative with a real agenda, a real word...
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ryan message at all. >> i thought it was crazy to put paul ryan on the ticket because of so much baggage he brought in terms of the house republican economic plan and that is largely really unpopular with a lot of people in the country and that the last thing you want to do is twin yourself up to an unpopular congressional republican leadership and those policy specifics. if you're going to put paul ryan the intellectual, ideological architect of the primary governing document of the congressional republicans, seems like you should either not put him on the ticket or put him on and give him a bear hug. the fact they've tried to do -- to not do that, get the energy of young conservative hero paul ryan, with -- and then distance themselves from the things that make him a conservative hero, seems whack a doodle. why not put rob portman on the ticket as people thought they were going to do from the beginning. >> with the other piece of sound demonstrates mitt romney feels like he's getting upstaged by paul ryan in terms of the love out there, which i think is emasculating to say the least, h
ryan message at all. >> i thought it was crazy to put paul ryan on the ticket because of so much baggage he brought in terms of the house republican economic plan and that is largely really unpopular with a lot of people in the country and that the last thing you want to do is twin yourself up to an unpopular congressional republican leadership and those policy specifics. if you're going to put paul ryan the intellectual, ideological architect of the primary governing document of the...
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you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not quite fridays off but it did make the job more straight forward. and george thorus pledged more money to you today. why did he do that today and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bring them out of the woodwork? >> is this the moment where we need to get involve snd. >> we are getting into this period where you are at the last moment where big investments are voting in the race. iowa is voting today. you can make investments in television add ver advertisements. i think a lot of democrats are feeling the election is here and even though mitt romney has not performed very well over the last two weeks, the president is barely knocking on 50% in the last two weeks. democrats are feeling the pressure and are concerned. >> when people are talking about giving maybe a seven figure donation, you were on the campaign side of it with normal donors year
you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not quite fridays off but it did make the job more straight forward. and george thorus pledged more money to you today. why did he do that today and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bring them out of the woodwork? >> is this...
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they think they have a rock star in paul ryan. he'll have the opportunity to be fully unleashed in that 90-minute session with joe biden. one of the things he said to chris wallace today is he's not a line guy. he's not going to try to razzle-dazzle you with some line that sounds like it's been coined and in his back pocket for a month and a half. he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his medicare and budget. >> how's he going to respond? >> they're ready. they want to be able to make the case to the american people that the real threat to medicare and its future is the president's affordable health care act, which they lovingly refer to as obamacare, and the fact that the president's plan extracts $716 million away to pay for that. what paul ryan isn't telling his supporters is that his budget proposal also extracts that amount, but they say they use that to pay down the debt. >> one of the things i'm most looking forward to
they think they have a rock star in paul ryan. he'll have the opportunity to be fully unleashed in that 90-minute session with joe biden. one of the things he said to chris wallace today is he's not a line guy. he's not going to try to razzle-dazzle you with some line that sounds like it's been coined and in his back pocket for a month and a half. he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his...
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paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favori
paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this...
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. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" magazine and msnbc senior political analyst whose publication is out with an issue today, who's telling the truth, the fact wars. mark halperin, i've been trying to find
. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already...
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. >> paul ryan is cutting 716 for medicare. the exact same number in his budget which was passed by the republican house and the president never mentioned it. >> it does remind you that the last debate that mitt romney was seven months ago and the last debate that barack obama had was four years ago. and the people he's used to sparring with are reporters. >> how did he prepare? how did the president prepare for this? >> we got 45 minutes in before we got a ryan budget mentioned. mitt romney made the choice to put ryan on the ticket. when we look at where the polls started to separate before the convention, right around when ryan was put on the ticket. when do the numbers on medicare and the polling start to go upside down for the republicans? when ryan is put on the ticket. yet we get 45 minutes through the debate before paul ryan is mentioned. he's the incarnation of the modern republican party which will inherit the power that you give to mitt romney since they will be governing from the house most likely. that is the key th
. >> paul ryan is cutting 716 for medicare. the exact same number in his budget which was passed by the republican house and the president never mentioned it. >> it does remind you that the last debate that mitt romney was seven months ago and the last debate that barack obama had was four years ago. and the people he's used to sparring with are reporters. >> how did he prepare? how did the president prepare for this? >> we got 45 minutes in before we got a ryan budget...
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paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the premise of the question. he'd try and explain it. he'd say, this is where we want to move the country. not about work, but it's been so damaging to sort of accept it and engage in it and embrace it, it is such a losing proposition. even the research from his own campaign must tell him that. >> joh
paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the...
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ron mott travels with paul ryan. joining me on the phone now from columbus, ron, what does the romney/ryan campaign think that paul ryan can do for its message in ohio? >> hey there, craig. good saturday to you. i think he is doing exactly what this ticket believes he can do. we just made a pit stop here at the varsity club on the ohio state university campus. going in to just meet people. and you can see people coming out of surrounding buildings to come see what all the fuss is about. this is the kind of excitement paul ryan generates with his ticket. i think that's why mitt romney ultimately chose him, because he can connect with people on a very real level. he is from wisconsin. he is a midwestern guy. he is a hunter and a fisherman. all the values that people hold near and dear in the midwest, this is paul ryan. so after this event today, though, he will be speaking to the national u.s. sportsmen alliance annual banquet. one of the challenge that this campaign has is that the message they're selling, at least he
ron mott travels with paul ryan. joining me on the phone now from columbus, ron, what does the romney/ryan campaign think that paul ryan can do for its message in ohio? >> hey there, craig. good saturday to you. i think he is doing exactly what this ticket believes he can do. we just made a pit stop here at the varsity club on the ohio state university campus. going in to just meet people. and you can see people coming out of surrounding buildings to come see what all the fuss is about....
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as for paul ryan, this has been part of a romney campaign tendency. everything from the convention, acutely so, maybe a bit before that. to take whatever sound bite of the day is and to build a narrative around that. that doesn't reenforce the larger one for the romney campaign. look, the american public is well aware of the economic situation our nation is in. it's a recovery, but the slowest and least satisfied since the great depression. something has to be said about that and directions have to be pointed at the future of the policy. that's what the governor is going to do tonight, but what has been interesting and not necessarily in every intans helpful to it, so to jump on one each day and pretend that's the news or the driver instead of having larger narrative about the present and future. >> dan, if you believe in that larger idea of the narrative, what should the narrative be for romney tonight and should it be let's take this one great idea, pound it home as many times as you can or hope something sticks? >> no, the former. look, american pr
as for paul ryan, this has been part of a romney campaign tendency. everything from the convention, acutely so, maybe a bit before that. to take whatever sound bite of the day is and to build a narrative around that. that doesn't reenforce the larger one for the romney campaign. look, the american public is well aware of the economic situation our nation is in. it's a recovery, but the slowest and least satisfied since the great depression. something has to be said about that and directions...
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i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and sound bites to put all over the media. this is the era we are living in and for whatever republicans and specifically this campaign continue to ignore that and it's just the realty of the times that we are losing in. >> so you are hoping that they can explain many of us are not there because they have not communicated. >> i think no matter how complex the issue is, which no one is saying this is an incredibly complex issue, they are going to have to narrow it down and make it digestible for average americans and they are not doing that right n
i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and...
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paul ryan's not hard right. ryan is telling the truth about a medicare and medicaid social security system that's going bankrupt and you know it. >> yeah, but what paul ryan does with that money doesn't put it into deficit reduction which you've been arguing for. he puts it all into tax cuts for the wealthy. >> well, the president didn't put $716 billion that he took out of medicare into deficit reduction. he put it into obamacare. isn't that just as reckless? >> no. because the president had -- we were dealing with health care at the time. the president will put significant medicare savings and tax savings, revenue increases, into deficit reduction. the hard right -- and i believe paul ryan is part of that hard right -- i think you've given him a pass. >> i disagree. >> i know you do. but his budget does not reduce the deficit for 40 years and takes almost all the medicare money that he saves under his plan, give him credit for stepping up to the plate on that, and puts it -- and the hard thing for a republican
paul ryan's not hard right. ryan is telling the truth about a medicare and medicaid social security system that's going bankrupt and you know it. >> yeah, but what paul ryan does with that money doesn't put it into deficit reduction which you've been arguing for. he puts it all into tax cuts for the wealthy. >> well, the president didn't put $716 billion that he took out of medicare into deficit reduction. he put it into obamacare. isn't that just as reckless? >> no. because...
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a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they have got. >> a voluntary campaign senior advisor is seeking to clarify the president's plan even after the currency of the economy. >> the president's not ga qualifiesed. we have now created 5 million jobs, we're net positive in terms of jobs created. but whole is huge, and we have to create an commit in which the middle class has a chance. we're not going to get back there by getting back to the same policies we have had before. >> the des moines register poll shows a four-point lead in ohio. in ohio the president is currently ahead in -- >>> president obama boarde
a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they...
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>> romney has made it difficult for ryan to be paul ryan. like you said, paul ryan was brought on because of these bold ideas. most namely, the ryan plan, the ryan budget proposal. and no sooner had he been brought on mitt romney was retreating from it and paul ryan was not referring to it at all. in fact mitt ryan -- zoo excuse me, mitt romney was -- >> just call him the stench. >> asking him about the $716 billion in medicare cuts that the paul ryan plan would put into effect one of the more controversial portions of it. mitt romney backtracked and said, i'm the guy running for president, not him. i think that in a nutshell sums up the predictment of paul ryan. he can't play to his strengths. >> is it time for more republicans to stand upwind of mitt romney? >> look i think with 41 days -- you're not going to get me to say it. i'm not saying it martin. >> okay. >> with 41 days left in the campaign, and the grumbling we're hearing about let ryan be ryan clearly folks have decided governor romney is beyond help. governor romney doesn't to wa
>> romney has made it difficult for ryan to be paul ryan. like you said, paul ryan was brought on because of these bold ideas. most namely, the ryan plan, the ryan budget proposal. and no sooner had he been brought on mitt romney was retreating from it and paul ryan was not referring to it at all. in fact mitt ryan -- zoo excuse me, mitt romney was -- >> just call him the stench. >> asking him about the $716 billion in medicare cuts that the paul ryan plan would put into...
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web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will be new things to talk about, new issues to digest, again, not a great moment for joe biden and clearly one the white house would have rather he not have said. i just don't know that, you know, in two weeks time we're talking about it. >> all right. we'll see what -- whether there's a new gaffe or two or three to replace that one tonight. thank you very much. see you later. joining me in denver, stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election effort. where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. beca
web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will...
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i mean, i was just struck by that video of paul ryan. there's no empathy there. no attempt to reach out and say hey, look. i understand what people are going through and this is what mitt romney and i want to do. and what's so devastating about that ad from the obama for america campaign where they just run mitt romney's words and you see women, but you also see senior citizens and variety rans and all sorts of people who make up the 47% who for one reason or another, paul ryan doesn't realize that a lot of the 47% are the very people who are in their base and the people they need to vote for them in november. >> let's see if mitt romney has been prepped with a better answer about the 47% tomorrow night. thank you for joining me. >> thank you lawrence. >>> coming up. mitt romney's secret tax returns are still making headlines. "the new york times" used romney's tax returns and new bain documents to expose mitt romney's lies about his money. >>> and the republican voter suppression movement suffered a big loss today in a pennsylvania courtroom. joy reid is here wi
i mean, i was just struck by that video of paul ryan. there's no empathy there. no attempt to reach out and say hey, look. i understand what people are going through and this is what mitt romney and i want to do. and what's so devastating about that ad from the obama for america campaign where they just run mitt romney's words and you see women, but you also see senior citizens and variety rans and all sorts of people who make up the 47% who for one reason or another, paul ryan doesn't realize...
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i want to turn to paul ryan for a quick moment here. this is what the "national review" is reporting this morning. quote, paul ryan has a new mission, reassuring conservative pundits. in the past week, the republican veep has called several conservative commentators, including george will, and in those conversations hz expressed confidence about the republican ticket's chances s schances, fi questions, and asked for frank assessments. what questions could paul ryan might be asked. >> sometimes people on my side are pretty quick to criticize their own. and i think it's a mistake. because really what's happening this presidential campaign is a very vigorous debate, and despite some of the numbers you talked about, there are others. it's only logical for a campaign and someone who's as respected as paul ryan to be regularly reaching out to some of the voices in the -- >> really, is that what he's doing? the he just reaching out or are conservative commentators calling him, giving him an earful, giving the campaign an earful. >> craig, they
i want to turn to paul ryan for a quick moment here. this is what the "national review" is reporting this morning. quote, paul ryan has a new mission, reassuring conservative pundits. in the past week, the republican veep has called several conservative commentators, including george will, and in those conversations hz expressed confidence about the republican ticket's chances s schances, fi questions, and asked for frank assessments. what questions could paul ryan might be asked....
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why did he pick paul ryan for his running rate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and night that he's out there acting all alone that he never hooked up with ryan in the first place. he acts like ryan's got no hold on him. but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two had things worked out. that romney and ryan were in this together. they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand to be tide to ryan and all that budget cutting baggage of his. ryan is failing the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him. a conviction poll. so trouble in paradise. mitt is dying to be single again, we all know politic also makes strange bed fellows but the word is out that this pair are sleeping in separate rooms. first more new polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. according to a new fox news poll president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48-43. the fox poll, highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks t
why did he pick paul ryan for his running rate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and night that he's out there acting all alone that he never hooked up with ryan in the first place. he acts like ryan's got no hold on him. but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two had things worked out. that romney and ryan were in this together. they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand to be tide to ryan and all that...
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let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, steve, you are conservative republican. you are not a fan of mitt romney. is this a make or break moment for his campaign on wednesday? who's right? chris christie or congressman ryan? >> well, if my head is twice as big as everybody on the panel does that mean i'm twice as smart in that's the question. >> you have to take that up with them. >> i think that they're both right in a way. i don't think one singular event will testimony the outcome unless either barack obama or mitt romney says there's no soviet domination of eastern europe. i do think one singular event can be a catalyst for an eventual outcome and begin a chain of events that we look back and say that's when the eventual outcome that we saw, eventually began to show it
let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, steve, you are conservative republican. you are not a fan of mitt romney. is this a make or break moment for his campaign on wednesday? who's...
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look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they know than a republican from a party that never supported the program to begin with. >> let me go to joy on that. joy ann, it seems to me that people who once you get into your late 60s, early 70s, into your 80s, you have one primary care, and that's what you're always talking about with your friends, how is your health? how is it going? you're social life in many ways is going to see the doctodoctor. you have to survive, see your kids and grand kids. you don't walk away and say i'd like to cut it but i don't like his health care program. >> the most remarkable thing when you go back an
look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they...
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>> paul ryan. paul ryan, he -- you know, he hasn't really changed his debate at all. he's not helping in wisconsin. >> okay. ladies, thanks so much. susan, margie, molly, appreciate it. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern. but stay with us, craig melvin is in the house. he's up next. i'm alex witt. have a great day. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics, put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ cheers and applause ] with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringe
>> paul ryan. paul ryan, he -- you know, he hasn't really changed his debate at all. he's not helping in wisconsin. >> okay. ladies, thanks so much. susan, margie, molly, appreciate it. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern. but stay with us, craig melvin is in the house. he's up next. i'm alex witt. have a great day. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day!...
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look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they know than a republican from a party that never supported the program to begin with. >> let me go to joy on that. joy-ann, it seems to me that people who once you get into your late 60s, early 70s, into your 80s, you have one primary care, and that's what you're always talking about with your friends, how is your health? how is it going? you're social life in many ways is going to see the doctor. you have to survive, see your kids and grandkids. you don't walk away and say i'd like to cut it but i don't like his health care program. >> the most remarkable thing when you go back and look
look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they...
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barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are only 187 days before training camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! whereas the packers are america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of the people of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thompson, governor of the great state of wisconsin, do hereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations. thank you. >> tommy
barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay...
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well that would not lead you to paul ryan. you don't want anyone from washington, pick another business guy or governor, at least, that track is closed. he could have said -- could have for want of a better term, tthe berlusconi. >> bonga party? >> i'm successful, i'm wealthy, you want to be me. >> right. >> le couldn't pull it off for cultural reasons and maybe character reasons, too. he's left being a bit of a governor and a bit of a businessman and a bit of everything to everyone. that's actually really who he is. this isn't a marketing thing. that's what mitt romney is. >> he has a problem today that he had at the beginning of the campaign. he can't talk about his time in business because he can't explain what he did and people think all he did was throw people out of work. he can't talk about his time as governor because his single accomplishments something republicans don't like and he can't talk about his faith because nef nerver figured out way. there's not a lot to talk about. >> exactly. i will say, in terms of the b
well that would not lead you to paul ryan. you don't want anyone from washington, pick another business guy or governor, at least, that track is closed. he could have said -- could have for want of a better term, tthe berlusconi. >> bonga party? >> i'm successful, i'm wealthy, you want to be me. >> right. >> le couldn't pull it off for cultural reasons and maybe character reasons, too. he's left being a bit of a governor and a bit of a businessman and a bit of everything...
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. >> paul ryan is in new hampshire today. the republican vice presidential nominee will hold a rally in the city of derry in just a few hours. meanwhile, vice president biden is in the battleground state of florida. he's going to attend a campaign event in fort myers this morning. on friday he met with seniors at a retirement village in boca raton. >> governor romney's plan goes into effect it can mean that everyone, every one of you, would be paying more on -- taxes on your social security. >> michelle obama is encouraging young voters to get to the polls. like right now. the first lady spoke to college students in iowa friday, urging them to go into nearby early voting booths to cast their ballots. >> you got a whole month to make it happen. a whole month to vote! as i tell my children, don't procrastinate. no procrastination. make it happen. do it today. >> joining me now, political reporter for "the washington post" felicia somnez and white house correspondent for the hill, amy barnes. good morning. >> good morning. >> so
. >> paul ryan is in new hampshire today. the republican vice presidential nominee will hold a rally in the city of derry in just a few hours. meanwhile, vice president biden is in the battleground state of florida. he's going to attend a campaign event in fort myers this morning. on friday he met with seniors at a retirement village in boca raton. >> governor romney's plan goes into effect it can mean that everyone, every one of you, would be paying more on -- taxes on your social...
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the convenient yesterday with paul ryan where they were together for the first time since the convention, for the second time since the convention was really flat. here we have a big crowd but some are comparing it to a primary sized crowd, not necessarily a general election sized crowd. president obama will be at the university campus where there will no doubt be thousands if not tens of thousands. the governor here gave -- as he was giving an introduction where he talked about how things are getting better in ohio. of course, they are. the unemployment rate is about 7.2% below the national average. so that's part of the headwind romney is fighting in this state. g but, again, this is the first of three events. it's all about the economy. yesterday he made an interesting pitch to the crowd saying, i need you to go out and tuque to obama. vote for me this time. so they're really trying to target those voters. as i heard you say earlier, on the press plane and in the crowd, the romney spinners are pushing back on the polls. they insist they're within the margin of error but they offer no
the convenient yesterday with paul ryan where they were together for the first time since the convention, for the second time since the convention was really flat. here we have a big crowd but some are comparing it to a primary sized crowd, not necessarily a general election sized crowd. president obama will be at the university campus where there will no doubt be thousands if not tens of thousands. the governor here gave -- as he was giving an introduction where he talked about how things are...
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he sponsored a bill on this. >> yes. >> cosponsored by paul ryan. it wasn't just -- it wasn't a slip of the tongue. this was their position. the entire, you know, house had been, you know -- the tea party wing of the house had been fighting for this. >> the reason they can get away with it in this race, think back mark foley became a national issue in a congressional race in 2006 where it was bad for the party nationally. because it's a presidential year, there's so much more attention that's going to go on the presidential election it is likely the case that the party -- you won't have a national discussion over this anymore over -- even though you might in other cases. the price is probably relatively low. as ryan was saying, if they are amoral things more important to try to win the majority than worry about the longer term implications. >> maybe todd akin needs his own baby ad. i'm just saying. trying to button it up. talk about falling flat. >> naughty naughty. >> wow. >> zinger. >> jon, ryan, liz and eric, for bearing with this program today.
he sponsored a bill on this. >> yes. >> cosponsored by paul ryan. it wasn't just -- it wasn't a slip of the tongue. this was their position. the entire, you know, house had been, you know -- the tea party wing of the house had been fighting for this. >> the reason they can get away with it in this race, think back mark foley became a national issue in a congressional race in 2006 where it was bad for the party nationally. because it's a presidential year, there's so much more...
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. >> still ahead, steve is asking if paul ryan running as romney's number two could prevent him from ever being number one. as we head to break, "moon river" in honor of andy williams who passed away last night. ♪ moon river wider than a mile ♪ ♪ i'm crossing you in style [ thunder crashes ] [ male announcer ] if you think all batteries are the same... consider this: when the unexpected happens, there's one brand of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites: duracell. one reason: duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. so, whether it's 10 years' of life's sunny days... or... the occasional stormy one... trust goes a long way. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ [ female announcer ] fresh milk and real cream makes philadelphia and the moment a little richer. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be saf
. >> still ahead, steve is asking if paul ryan running as romney's number two could prevent him from ever being number one. as we head to break, "moon river" in honor of andy williams who passed away last night. ♪ moon river wider than a mile ♪ ♪ i'm crossing you in style [ thunder crashes ] [ male announcer ] if you think all batteries are the same... consider this: when the unexpected happens, there's one brand of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites:...
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paul ryan instantly reversed the position that he had when he was in congress. it kept the president's medicare cuts. romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the p
paul ryan instantly reversed the position that he had when he was in congress. it kept the president's medicare cuts. romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on...
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here's paul ryan on fox news sunday. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> but i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say it this way, you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board, by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions for home purchases, for health care. >> where is the math? and is mitt romney going to be under pressure in this debate to produce the specifics as to how it will all add up? >> well, andrea, first that's a laughable question. where's the president's plan? he's had four years, 23 million people don't have work. so let's start with that. >> the question was asked by -- the question was asked by chris wallace on fox, being asked by other republicans, where is the math, how do you add up those tax cuts, even eliminating some deductions, which deductions would you eliminate, let's be specific and how will you do that and reach deficit reduction, which programs wil
here's paul ryan on fox news sunday. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> but i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say it this way, you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board, by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions for home purchases, for health care. >> where is...
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it's not because paul ryan fails to connect with people or people don't know who mitt romney is. i think we are witnessing a full-scale swing in the pendulum. here in wisconsin scott walker survived the recall effort, but you have tammy baldwin pulling ahead of tommy thompson, a double-digit swing from where he was. she used to be trailing after the democratic convention. president obama is pulling ahead in the upper midwest. i think this may be less about -- this is only mitt romney, and mitt has to be mitt and it's all about mitt. this runs deeper than that. this is a sort of recentering of the american electorate we're witnessing. >> let's go back to the political article. it isn't the chair or the ho-hum convention or the looked video or stewart stevens or the improving economy or media bias or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. is it that simple? is the problem at the end of the day that it's the candidate himself? it's mitt romney who perhaps isn't what some thought he would be in terms of a candidate? >> i think it's some of the intangibles that surround the race, but i
it's not because paul ryan fails to connect with people or people don't know who mitt romney is. i think we are witnessing a full-scale swing in the pendulum. here in wisconsin scott walker survived the recall effort, but you have tammy baldwin pulling ahead of tommy thompson, a double-digit swing from where he was. she used to be trailing after the democratic convention. president obama is pulling ahead in the upper midwest. i think this may be less about -- this is only mitt romney, and mitt...
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this morning, congressman paul ryan made a stop in new hampshire. the other half of the republican ticket stayed on message with promises of rescuing the economy and creating jobs. >> we are not simply saying, hire us because the other guy is inadequate and failed. we want to earn this victory. we want to deserve this victory. because what we need, what we as a country need, is a mandate, and the moral authority to get us back on the right track and put the right inside in place to get people out of poverty, to get people out of living paycheck to paycheck. to get people back into jobs with higher take-home pay, so they have economic security, so we can get this economy growing, so we can restore the promise of the american dream for everybody. and that means ideas. we're offering very specific, bold ideas, that are what we need to do to fix the big problems in this country. >> that was paul ryan there this morning in new hampshire, speak of new hampshire. here's a reality check for the romney campaign. in all nine of the battleground state polls th
this morning, congressman paul ryan made a stop in new hampshire. the other half of the republican ticket stayed on message with promises of rescuing the economy and creating jobs. >> we are not simply saying, hire us because the other guy is inadequate and failed. we want to earn this victory. we want to deserve this victory. because what we need, what we as a country need, is a mandate, and the moral authority to get us back on the right track and put the right inside in place to get...
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paul ryan was the latest one to join on the bandwagon last night talking about wisconsin. >> i don't believe that particular poll. i won't get into the methodologies about it. >> they weren't talking about a specific poll in na statement, which sounds like it doesn't matter to him which poll it is but it's tainted. what's your take on this? we've heard it a lot over the last 48 hours. >> look at all the polls. if you go to realclearpolitics.com, for instance, in every poll in every swing state the president is a hit, it's hard to find a poll in a swing state where romney is leading. if you look at the data right now, we're looking at an election that looks more like 2008 than 2004. the president is ahead in almost every swing state, whether you look at gallup pews or pugh poll or nbc news polls, the president is far ahead right now. romney does five points nationally in some big swing state that romney does need a big move in the debates to change the game. anytime a campaign says a poll is wrong, it's a sign they're not doing well from my experience doing politics. >> susan, if you
paul ryan was the latest one to join on the bandwagon last night talking about wisconsin. >> i don't believe that particular poll. i won't get into the methodologies about it. >> they weren't talking about a specific poll in na statement, which sounds like it doesn't matter to him which poll it is but it's tainted. what's your take on this? we've heard it a lot over the last 48 hours. >> look at all the polls. if you go to realclearpolitics.com, for instance, in every poll in...
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jansing. >> paul ryan is treated like a surrogate. he doesn't get to choose his own staff. he has a staff loyal to mitt romney around him every minute. he is told what to say and told what to do. that's fine as long as romney is winning. but romney is not winning. he's losing. and that unleashes the presidential candidate to act in his or her own way to unleash sarah palin to start attacking barack obama more. >> so meghan, as we all know. your dad certainly dealt with tensions within the ticket of himself, sarah palin, for any of these candidates, though, behind the scenes there is ego, ambition, and the perception of what the voters see. do you think there is a behind the scenes strain that's going on because, as we also mentioned, the fact that congressman ryan is still running for his same seat. he has a good safety net if things don't go well as role for vice president. >> first of all that gentleman from politico wrote a satirecal article. they would not ever do that. second of all, i think there's a really obnoxious president p
jansing. >> paul ryan is treated like a surrogate. he doesn't get to choose his own staff. he has a staff loyal to mitt romney around him every minute. he is told what to say and told what to do. that's fine as long as romney is winning. but romney is not winning. he's losing. and that unleashes the presidential candidate to act in his or her own way to unleash sarah palin to start attacking barack obama more. >> so meghan, as we all know. your dad certainly dealt with tensions...
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. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. service member. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel has the details. >> reporter: there has been another insider attack, the so-called green on blue attack, when afghan troops attack and kill their american partners. so far, this year, these kind of attacks have led to at l
. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a...
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paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're just finding out that's not enough, but the alternative is worse. >> the alternative is no real alternative because i don't know any republican that toed the far right line in the primaries would have got through the primaries. i looked at some of the positions mitt romney was forced to take. he had to say he would vote no on a 10-1 spending deal. he talked about self-deport addition as an immigration solution. he embraced the paul ryan budget calling it marvelous and medicare vouchers and personhood which is so extreme it failed on the ballot in mississippi, arguably the most pro-life state in the country. one that hurt him in ohio is his embrace of the anti-union ohio sb 5 ballot initia
paul ryan budget, they're not running on the paul ryan budget. i don't know why they put him on the ticket. >> oh, my god. >> you can do what mitt romney has done. stay away from that stuff as much as you can and you can run this message of, hey, i'm the protest vehicle. if you're unhappy where the economy is, vote out obama. that's the better calculation. we're just finding out that's not enough, but the alternative is worse. >> the alternative is no real alternative because...
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paul ryan kicks off a bus tour of the buckeye state. >> i was teaching the kids the song on the way over here. >> we screw that up. of course, he's in iowa. not ohio. in an interview, romney was pressed for specifics on his tax plan. after ryan said on fox news on sunday the math would take too long to explain. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $70,000 deduction and can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others. and you can fill that bucket if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll simpson did it. but that's the sort of thing you do with congress. >> so that's the most detail we have heard romney talk about this idea of different buckets and a cap on deductions. but still it's been at nearly every stop in the the last two weeks. romney has had to explain the 47% remark. don't be surprised if we hear a version of this answer when it comes up wednesday night. >> if you could go back to that fundraiser, would you have said it differently? >> it's not p
paul ryan kicks off a bus tour of the buckeye state. >> i was teaching the kids the song on the way over here. >> we screw that up. of course, he's in iowa. not ohio. in an interview, romney was pressed for specifics on his tax plan. after ryan said on fox news on sunday the math would take too long to explain. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $70,000 deduction and can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others. and you can fill that...
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paul ryan said it would take too long to explain their budget plan. the problem isn't the time and explanation. it's the math that's involved to make the statements that mitt romney and paul ryan have said line up to being anything close to the truth. and i think that governor romney will likely whether he likes it or not have an opportunity to try to explain how you pay for a $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy, and not have it end up as every study has shown raising taxes on middle-class families. >> they've come up wait new study today where they say i think with what you could call dynamic scoring, that tax reform will produce economic growth if you want to prebutt that. >> well, you know, andrea, you and i both have been in washington a long time. and when the math doesn't add up, somebody comes up with these unique economic theories that somehow despite the fact that the numbers don't equal up, trust us, because everything will work out just fine. that's exactly what's gotten us into this mess. that's why when barack obama walked in to the oval
paul ryan said it would take too long to explain their budget plan. the problem isn't the time and explanation. it's the math that's involved to make the statements that mitt romney and paul ryan have said line up to being anything close to the truth. and i think that governor romney will likely whether he likes it or not have an opportunity to try to explain how you pay for a $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy, and not have it end up as every study has shown raising taxes on middle-class...
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the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are saying it's the worst fog they've seen in a long time throughout this region. it will lift by 9:00 or 10:00 a.m. so the heart of it is right now. we will see a few showers during the day but not like yesterday where it really was a rainout in a few spots. temperatures will be very warm and humid. we are going to see a chance of showers in new york city as we go through thursday and then again over the weekend. it's over the weekend that the temperatures drop on the east coast including washington, d.c., and boston with highs in the 50s and 60s. right now all that co
the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are...
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cue paul ryan moments ago. here he is. >> are you troubled by the wisconsin polls? and they're just polls and you always remind me of that. for a while it looked like you could take that state. just a snapshot of the moment but trailing further in that state. >> i don't actually believe the validity of that poll. i won't get into all the methodologies of it. >> which would he believe in? >> one that has him ahead. that's the one he would believe in. the reality is there's a serious thing about polling in that it does matter what your sample is and it matters the sample size and it also matters the weighting, whether you have how many more democrats than republicans. but underlying the problem for mitt romney is that republican voter identification is dropping, so the polls do have to reflect a weighting that says that there are fewer republicans than there are democrats and there are more independents. it's because there's less identification with the republican party in the country. so if the polls are trending away from mitt romney, it's two things. number one, hi
cue paul ryan moments ago. here he is. >> are you troubled by the wisconsin polls? and they're just polls and you always remind me of that. for a while it looked like you could take that state. just a snapshot of the moment but trailing further in that state. >> i don't actually believe the validity of that poll. i won't get into all the methodologies of it. >> which would he believe in? >> one that has him ahead. that's the one he would believe in. the reality is...
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the next one is next week and it's between joe biden and paul ryan. joe's not going to be afraid to throw some punks around and combat the deceptions about taxes, medicare, social security, and the rest. and the president himself has two more chances to meet romney on the debate field of battle. you can bet that the passive note scribbling guy that showed up last night is not going to show up for the next two. romney outperformed, obama underperformed. if nothing else there will be a natural regression to the mean. plus, the expectations for obama going in were way out of whack and now they've certainly been adjusted. still feeling sad? okay. i am, too. but, again, we're going to be fine. just take a look at the president today. >> the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms. but don't boo, vote. but the fellow on stage last night, he loves teachers. can't get enough of them. >> see, look, there's the guy i love, confident, funny, relaxed. he's probably relieved that that first one is over. now he knows that romney is g
the next one is next week and it's between joe biden and paul ryan. joe's not going to be afraid to throw some punks around and combat the deceptions about taxes, medicare, social security, and the rest. and the president himself has two more chances to meet romney on the debate field of battle. you can bet that the passive note scribbling guy that showed up last night is not going to show up for the next two. romney outperformed, obama underperformed. if nothing else there will be a natural...
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i mean, paul ryan was right in the center of it. and now you're going to make him vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike rowe is up there talking about the very people that mitt romney was dissing behind closed doors at that fund-raiser. he can't say it about them, but maybe this guy can. maybe i'll hand the microphone to this guy, this guy named mike rowe, who wears a workman's hat and a sweatshirt and goes around and has pretty good visibility, maybe he can get up there and say that i really do care about these folks. i find this of somewhat of a desperate move, the choreography of all of this. >> well, it's really based, ed, on the idea that the american people ar
i mean, paul ryan was right in the center of it. and now you're going to make him vice president of the united states, in charge of opposing infrastructure building. it makes no sense. the country cannot work if we don't invest both in people's education and in the infrastructure, and romney has no record of it, and paul ryan has a record of being against it. so i don't see how anybody's going to vote for them. >> on the stage, the theatrics of it all and the semantics of it as well, mike...
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in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i would imagine the obama administration, or obama's going to go through tonight, you really only need to know two numbers about romney's tax plan, one is $480 billion. that's the cost of it in 2015, just to pick one year. and the other is $251 billion. that's the amount that will go to very wealthy families. now, mitt romney's promise, his tax plan won't cost a dime on the deficit. so he somehow needs to get $480 billion out of the tax code by closing breaks and loopholes, seems like the mortgage interest deduction, and also that it won't be a tax cut on the rich. so about $250 billion of it needs to come from tax breaks for the rich. the problem for him is that independent analysts have looked at and basically said, when you take into account the tax breaks he's promised he won't touch, like the capital gains tax break, it's basically impossible to make the numbers worse. there's no way to get that many tax breaks from the rich, because they don't use that many tax breaks. you h
in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i would imagine the obama administration, or obama's going to go through tonight, you really only need to know two numbers about romney's tax plan, one is $480 billion. that's the cost of it in 2015, just to pick one year. and the other is $251 billion. that's the amount that will go to very wealthy families. now, mitt romney's promise, his tax plan won't cost a dime on the deficit. so he somehow...
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i want to play paul ryan. he did a live interview with bloomberg this morning. here is what he had to say about what he expects to see from president obama. >> president is not telling the truth about what we are proposing. he can't run his record so he has to distort mitt romney's record. he has to divide the country to distract the country to win by default. >> here is what you hear over and over again, distort the record. governor romney saying in a prior interview with "meet the press," the president wouldn't be truthful. what is your response to the romney campaign seeing mitt romney, seeing paul ryan predicting the president to be untruthful? >> that is an interesting talking point coming from candidates whose convention was based on a tripod of lies, talking about a welfare reform attack president clinton called false in the architect of welfare reform called false. blaming the president for the closure of a gm plant that was slated for closure during the previous administration. here are the facts. the $5 trillion tax plan that mitt romney and paul ryan
i want to play paul ryan. he did a live interview with bloomberg this morning. here is what he had to say about what he expects to see from president obama. >> president is not telling the truth about what we are proposing. he can't run his record so he has to distort mitt romney's record. he has to divide the country to distract the country to win by default. >> here is what you hear over and over again, distort the record. governor romney saying in a prior interview with...
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mike, the president is now, i believe, in paul ryan's backyard, madison, wisconsin. there's an image there live. he's scheduled to speak i think within the hour. he's got two weeks until the next debate. do we expect him, do you think, to take the gloves off between now and then? >> reporter: it's a great question, martin, and i think it's conventional wisdom without the day has increasingly con he jeled around this idea that mitt romney was victorious regardless of the methods. you have seen a lot of obama aides and surrogates up the rhetoric in their comments to reporters and elsewhere. we heard david axelrod calling mitt romney and his performance as a serial evader and an artful dodger by way of explaining why president obama didn't go after him more aggressively. we heard david plouffe just a few minutes ago from aboard air force one piped in here to the press room calling mitt romney dishonest, saying he lied about his tax policy. >> but, mike, the president himself earlier today said, didn't he, that he was debating a man who appeared to have multiple position
mike, the president is now, i believe, in paul ryan's backyard, madison, wisconsin. there's an image there live. he's scheduled to speak i think within the hour. he's got two weeks until the next debate. do we expect him, do you think, to take the gloves off between now and then? >> reporter: it's a great question, martin, and i think it's conventional wisdom without the day has increasingly con he jeled around this idea that mitt romney was victorious regardless of the methods. you have...
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ryan. so i do think voters are want to see some meat around the bones of those specific proposals. i think that's what undecided voters in places like colorado want to see. the other thing, i'll point out is, female voters in colorado are concerned about governor romney's health care policies. i was disappointed that nobody talked about that last night. and i'm hoping they'll discuss it in one of the future debates. >> congresswoman, why didn't the president bring up women's issues? why didn't he bring up the 47%? >> i don't know. he didn't call me, so i -- i think maybe he got so much into the details of the policies that he was talking about, he was trying to explain how his policies are really going to benefit the middle class. but in fact, i really think both candidates should have talked about how the affordable care act, for example, gives equity in health care to women, how it gives women mammograms and cervical cancer screening and how it gives them birth control. but you know i don
ryan. so i do think voters are want to see some meat around the bones of those specific proposals. i think that's what undecided voters in places like colorado want to see. the other thing, i'll point out is, female voters in colorado are concerned about governor romney's health care policies. i was disappointed that nobody talked about that last night. and i'm hoping they'll discuss it in one of the future debates. >> congresswoman, why didn't the president bring up women's issues? why...
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and that's why this fall he's not betting on coach rex ryan. his money is on paul ryan. but there's a final reason for why woody johnson doesn't need to worry about his flailing franchise. it's called redistribution, the very mechanism described as socialism by the nfl commissioner that allows his franchise to keep financially thriving even if the team doesn't win another game. that's why woody johnson can gamble on mitt romney, because johnson wins even
and that's why this fall he's not betting on coach rex ryan. his money is on paul ryan. but there's a final reason for why woody johnson doesn't need to worry about his flailing franchise. it's called redistribution, the very mechanism described as socialism by the nfl commissioner that allows his franchise to keep financially thriving even if the team doesn't win another game. that's why woody johnson can gamble on mitt romney, because johnson wins even
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republicans from mitt romney and paul ryan to sarah palin, sean hannity, and rush limbaugh all urged akin to get out of the race after he said that. karl rove's american crossroads super pac pulled their money from him and while talking to donors, rove made this, his think being what akin was doing to the party crystal clear. he said we should sink todd akin. if he's found mysteriously murdered don't look for my whereabouts. that's karl. the national republican senate committee also pulled funds from akin's race. its chairman, john cornyn of texas, said last week, just last week, he had a simple answer on their involvement with akin going forward. he told "the hill" newspaper, quote, we're done. well, that was then, this is now. the deadline for akin to remove himself from the ballot has passed, and slowly republicans are rejoining the akin bandwagon, if you can call it that. the national republican senate committee, for example, said yesterday, as with every republican senate candidate, we hope todd akin wins in november, and we will continue to monitor his race closely in the days
republicans from mitt romney and paul ryan to sarah palin, sean hannity, and rush limbaugh all urged akin to get out of the race after he said that. karl rove's american crossroads super pac pulled their money from him and while talking to donors, rove made this, his think being what akin was doing to the party crystal clear. he said we should sink todd akin. if he's found mysteriously murdered don't look for my whereabouts. that's karl. the national republican senate committee also pulled...
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paul ryan! isn't that something? wait a second. wait a second. romney, ryan! romney, ryan! romney, ryan! there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> oh. sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring up newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it doesn't even matter. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god? >> it's not going to work. >> pray for our sinners in thy hour of peace. >> it's not going to work. it's too late for that. >> it seems to me -- except what would happen, it's the end of "godfather 2," i'm fredo on the back of the boat about to get it in the back of my head. >> how do you fix that? >> you don't fix it. sadly, i said this about mitt romney's a great man. he is. he's a great father, a great husband. he is a great businessman, great turnaround guy. if i had a business anywhere in the world, i'd have him run it. he just -- he's a horrible politician. he's one of the worst. he's a great guy. i just want to say, he's a great, great guy, but man, ed rendell -- you know him. great g
paul ryan! isn't that something? wait a second. wait a second. romney, ryan! romney, ryan! romney, ryan! there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> oh. sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring up newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it doesn't even matter. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god? >> it's not going to work. >> pray for our sinners in thy hour of...
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and then i think there is a second component and that is that he selected as his running mate paul ryan. paul ryan, someone who is passionate about deconstructing comments of the 47%. >> has romney's campaign done a good job of responding to the criticism? >> he first comes out and says i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. but then as he's tried to move away from it, he's ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing health care reform in massachusetts, which simply reinforced that if that's empathy, then barack obama -- >> do you think the president used 47% to box him in? >> i think so but he's got to be careful. obama doesn't want 47%, he wants 51, 52, 53. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. >> the first day or two it was like the waco with the david koresh situation where they're trying to smoke him out. >> todd akin's own campaign is comparing him to a cult leader. >> this is somebody who makes michelm michele bachmann look like a hippie. brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always go
and then i think there is a second component and that is that he selected as his running mate paul ryan. paul ryan, someone who is passionate about deconstructing comments of the 47%. >> has romney's campaign done a good job of responding to the criticism? >> he first comes out and says i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. but then as he's tried to move away from it, he's ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing...
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that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt romney, the one na showed up last night? >> well, one of the things -- your question, of course, answers why i've done what i did the last five years trying to stop him from being the nominee, but he did effective things defending conservative values last night. if you look at one focus groups one of the networks did of undecided voters in colorado, his numbers were the highest when he talked about the role of government freesh government, freedom for the individual, the founding documents. these are things we haven't seen a republican candidate talk about and mean on a national stage in many, many y
that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt...
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i'm not sure he knows that paul ryan voted for that sequester or that at this point wars are the way you make new veterans if he's threatening new wars in iran and syria the way he's been so threatening on those issues. we need this debate. we have problems as a country, not getting the debate from the campaign but maybe next week we will start to. >> and on nbc and msnbc, we've got lester holt and richard engel and teams of correspondents also in the field, so we are going to be having that debate come hell or high water. >> do you feel like those issues can be brought into the campaign with less than 40 days, is there no chance that we're going to get there? >> i think that we have to force the issue, we in the media as well, we have to talk about things other than the polls and horse race and what's on twitter, beyond sort of the social media context -- >> the moment to moment stuff that people are fighting about and get to the policy. >> we also have two senate races that have gone seriously off the tracks. let's talk about massachusetts and missouri. >> massachusetts scott brown
i'm not sure he knows that paul ryan voted for that sequester or that at this point wars are the way you make new veterans if he's threatening new wars in iran and syria the way he's been so threatening on those issues. we need this debate. we have problems as a country, not getting the debate from the campaign but maybe next week we will start to. >> and on nbc and msnbc, we've got lester holt and richard engel and teams of correspondents also in the field, so we are going to be having...
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paul ryan and joe biden. >> that is going to be -- >> people love to say these vice presidential debates don't matter. go back to 2004, they do matter. >> i think this one does. >> and they matter because george w. bush had a very bad first debate. but you know what? dick cheney, sitting down, stemmed that tide and actually gave republicans a reason -- everybody was painting dick cheney as darth vader, as they always do. he sat down and he just absolutely demolished john edwards. it looked like there was an adult and there was a child in the room. and it actually gave the bush campaign new life. >> i think paul ryan represents, i mean, really specific ideas. >> right. >> you know? it's going to be -- >> i think it's -- and i think it's going to be great. you know, the pressure, actually, i would have never believed i would have said this 24 hours ago. it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to t
paul ryan and joe biden. >> that is going to be -- >> people love to say these vice presidential debates don't matter. go back to 2004, they do matter. >> i think this one does. >> and they matter because george w. bush had a very bad first debate. but you know what? dick cheney, sitting down, stemmed that tide and actually gave republicans a reason -- everybody was painting dick cheney as darth vader, as they always do. he sat down and he just absolutely demolished john...
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as for congressman paul ryan, he's just gushing about the president's skills. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years, he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> forget my running mate. the president's the guy to watch but not everyone agrees. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. i don't know about that. you know, who's going to put the most points on the board. >> you are. no, no, governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> so they are praising each other. but something tells me we won't see too many compliments on that stage tonight. joining me now is rick stengle, editor of "time"'s magazine called, who is telling the truth, the fact war. what does governor romney need to do tonight, in your opinion? >> one of the things he needs to do is to seem presidential. one of the things that folks haven't been talking about is if you go back to reagan/carter in 1980, what
as for congressman paul ryan, he's just gushing about the president's skills. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years, he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> forget my running mate. the president's the guy to watch but not everyone agrees. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best...
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they really don't like paul ryan. so you look at all the recent polls, you have four of them. you have reuters, gallup, bloomberg and fox show the president leading. which doesn't mitt romney embrace these polls and acknowledge them? say, this is how it is right now. we're going to change them? >> i think internally they probably are doing a lot of that and trying to figure out how they can shift the narrative, but i think that article is exactly right. yes, mitt romney has been a poor candidate. yes, his comments about the 47% have been truly devastating to this race. i think his problems go way back. they do go to a self-delusion the gop has about the president. that he's awful and a toaster oven could beat him in an election. it's not true. the american people like the president. mitt romney was forced to move so far to the right in the gop primary it's hard to come back to a sensible, mainstream view and his embrace of paul ryan on the ticket just made that that much harder. >> if you're in the wilderness for years and you're not winning and we have 8% unemployment and we
they really don't like paul ryan. so you look at all the recent polls, you have four of them. you have reuters, gallup, bloomberg and fox show the president leading. which doesn't mitt romney embrace these polls and acknowledge them? say, this is how it is right now. we're going to change them? >> i think internally they probably are doing a lot of that and trying to figure out how they can shift the narrative, but i think that article is exactly right. yes, mitt romney has been a poor...
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i think there is a second component and that is that he is selecting as his running mate, paul ryan. likeable guy, but someone who is passionate about deconstructing programs for the 47%. >> what are do you think are romney's campaign to respond to all of this. have they done a good job? >> one of the most miserable responses i have seen in years of politics. he comes out and said i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. as he tried to move away from it, he ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing health care reform in massachusetts which reinforced the fact that if that's empathy, barack obama showed it for the whole country. >> you think the president uses the phrase 47% to box romney in in the first debate? >> a little bit, but he has to be careful. obama doesn't want 47%. he wants 51, 52, 53. he will use a lot of efforts. there will be a referencing to the 47%, but more of an emphasis on what he will do for the broader majority. >> thanks so much. a lot more in the next half hour with the ed show. stay with us. >>
i think there is a second component and that is that he is selecting as his running mate, paul ryan. likeable guy, but someone who is passionate about deconstructing programs for the 47%. >> what are do you think are romney's campaign to respond to all of this. have they done a good job? >> one of the most miserable responses i have seen in years of politics. he comes out and said i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. as he tried to move away from it, he ended up...
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president obama could have made the part of him walking away from paul ryan's own plan on this, that essentially it leads medicare to run out of money eight years earlier. and he could press romney on why on earth he wants to redistribute money from ordinary taxpayers to hospital company shareholders. he didn't do any of that. >> speaking of pressing, which was 47%? when was bain capital? where was the war on women? >> it was a very low energy debate. there weren't a lot of zingers or agrow or flash points. if you were watching that for the first time coming into the political landscape cold, you would wonder whirks haven't the guys come together with a bipartisan fiscal deal over the last couple of years? you didn't get that sense of intense anger and emotion on stage last night. yes, they are different in the issues, but you really could feel these are two professorial people with many views could have been pretty boring to watch. and there was not the passion. >> i want to bring in congressman steve israel, democrat from new york, also the chair of the democratic national campaign
president obama could have made the part of him walking away from paul ryan's own plan on this, that essentially it leads medicare to run out of money eight years earlier. and he could press romney on why on earth he wants to redistribute money from ordinary taxpayers to hospital company shareholders. he didn't do any of that. >> speaking of pressing, which was 47%? when was bain capital? where was the war on women? >> it was a very low energy debate. there weren't a lot of zingers...
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romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and paul ryan are actually running. that's quite a statement. and a new york magazine jonathan challenged romney over his economic plan that seems to rely on some magical numbers and thinking, quote, so romney is a candidate of a 20% cut in tax rates, a new plan to cover people with pre-existing conditions and higher defense spending and he will accomplish it all by eliminating federal funding for pbs. the question is can obama and his team win the post debate debate by highlighting some of this nonsense and romney's fuzzy language? willy brown is the former mayor of san francisco, former speaker of the house out there. joan walsh is editor at large or salon and the author of "what's the mat we are white people." i want to get to these points. can you win on the fact having lost perhaps on performance value? >> it's very, very difficult to get people in the world observing politicians to overcome to the substance. they always go for style. they always are influenced by performances, and i believe mr. obama took a lickin
romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and paul ryan are actually running. that's quite a statement. and a new york magazine jonathan challenged romney over his economic plan that seems to rely on some magical numbers and thinking, quote, so romney is a candidate of a 20% cut in tax rates, a new plan to cover people with pre-existing conditions and higher defense spending and he will accomplish it all by eliminating federal funding for pbs. the question is can obama and his...
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paul ryan has a longer record in congress, in washington, far longer than mitt romney has, yet paul ryan is treated like a surrogate. he doesn't get to choose his own staff. he has a staff loyal to mitt romney, around him every minute. he is told what to say and told what to do. that's fine as long as romney is winning but romney is not winning. he's losing, and that unleashes the vice presidential candidate to act in his or her own way, sarah palin to start attacking barack obama more. it has unleashed paul ryan to start using power point because power point is a bad sign is exactly what you showed at the top. having your vice president and presidential candidate campaign together is a huge waste of resources. you want them split up campaigning in different places on different days and getting twice the punch for the campaign. putting them together does nothing for you. >> it is something that people are talking about. i think it's the number one most read on politico so people can check it out there. roger simon, great to talk to you. >> great to talk to you, chris, as always. >>> isra
paul ryan has a longer record in congress, in washington, far longer than mitt romney has, yet paul ryan is treated like a surrogate. he doesn't get to choose his own staff. he has a staff loyal to mitt romney, around him every minute. he is told what to say and told what to do. that's fine as long as romney is winning but romney is not winning. he's losing, and that unleashes the vice presidential candidate to act in his or her own way, sarah palin to start attacking barack obama more. it has...
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sunday paul ryan said it's not in the least bit true that cutting the tax rate by 20% would cut $20 trillion in five years. >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the -- >> the cut in tax rates is lower, by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering the tax rates by broadening the tax rates -- >> let me --. i -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time. it would take me too long go through all of the math. >> that's a quote you're going to hear a lot, i guess from the obama campaign and the president himself. meanwhile the president who's known for being a bit long-winded and can have an hour-long news conference with only eight questions is working to sharpen his responses. quote, we eh had a hard time getting every point across within the time limit. you're trying to make a case to the people, so you have to make sure your answers connect with people. he got some advice from howard dean. >> the president's got to avoid being irritable. hi's got to roll with the punches. mitt is going to be out there, aggressive. he feet
sunday paul ryan said it's not in the least bit true that cutting the tax rate by 20% would cut $20 trillion in five years. >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the -- >> the cut in tax rates is lower, by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering the tax rates by broadening the tax rates -- >> let me --. i -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time. it would take me...